Final interview of the series by request from some listeners, is with Mike Cahn, my partner in life and many projects. In this episode, he tells us about his "aha" moment when he began to consciously question the mainstream system and its values, while also talking about some of the things in his upbringing which prepared him for that moment and guided him where to go afterwards. We then talk about how our shared journeys led to the foundation of Carraig Dulra.

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